On the Empire Podcast this week, we hope that reviewing Anaka Rendana is a whole lot easier

than saying Anaka Rendana and Anaka Rendana.

We pick behind a helmet and tell you what dread is really like.

And John Hillcoat and Nick Cave pop into the pod booth to tell us all about lawless.

And Tom Hardy's cardigans.

Hello pod, I'm Chris Heward and this is the Empire Podcast.

The podcast whose recording control desk broke down completely this week, which means

this is coming to you live from an emergency bunker, not live, just off Oxford Street,

or we find the pioneer that beaming podcasts straight into your brain's technology that

we've been working on for so long.

There's only a slight chance of death, so don't worry about it.

As ever, I'm joined by three of my colleagues who forgot to book themselves in for meetings.

When we were recording the podcast, first up, there's a woman who's quite simply the greatest

movie-related o'hara of all time.

If you don't count Scarlett, that is, and Maureen, and Catherine, and David, and Paige,

and Frank, and Rosella, and Mario, and Jenny, and other people I didn't get around to

Google in.

Still, give it up for Helen O'Hara.

I am totally better than Scarlett O'Hara.

I wear much smaller skirts and don't, you know, fat for blood.

Just line-sing around, you know, for no reason.

Okay, you sold, done?

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