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The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

27. Jay Kelley — Evolving a Beloved Brand While Honoring Its Legacy

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Management, Business, Marketing, Entrepreneurship

5.0540 Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2020

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

"This is a very risky business, but at the end of the day, you've got to bet on yourself." - Jay Kelley Why does this attorney actively seek out complex cases and tough trials? How did a visiting acting professor inspire Jay to study law? What does creating a lasting law firm legacy look like, especially when it’s not your name on the wall? How can the courtroom art of persuasion help you build the ultimate brand? With Challenge Comes Reward: Why Jay Kelley Picks the Tough Cases Jay Kelley's path to becoming an attorney was somewhat unconventional — from an acting workshop to a job as a courthouse clerk, eventually wrangling the position he was really after: the felony division. Jay is attracted to tough cases, and his passion has followed him through to today, where he takes on some of the meatiest medical malpractice trials around. We talk about the power of truly knowing yourself as an attorney and as a businessman, how vulnerability can build credibility, and why Jay's analytical mind has put him head and shoulders above the competition. Playing the Long Game: How to Build a Brand That Lasts When it comes to building your firm’s brand, it’s important to realize that your brand already exists — whether it’s by default or by design. Jay elaborates on his decision-making process when it comes to the long-term marketing strategies that have established Elk + Elk as the respected brand and market leader they are today. He talks about the value of client service, why there's no substitute for community outreach, and how the persuasive skills honed in the courtroom should be pervasive throughout your brand. A Firm For the Future: How Elk + Elk Are Successfully Transitioning Elk + Elk's founders are well-known faces in Ohio and beyond, thanks to their instantly recognizable advertisements. So what does it take to hand over the keys smoothly to the next generation of partners? Jay Kelley gives his insider insights on Elk + Elk's long term transition that requires careful messaging and a series of highly strategic and well-executed steps. He explains why your law firm’s brand needs to be bigger than one individual. Plus, he tells us just what happened the first time they replaced their founders on a primetime TV spot! Key takeaways: Brand recall without brand credibility is not enough. Getting your name in someone's head is only half the story. To really have an impact, your actions must speak louder than words. Don't just reject — become a trusted advisor. Even if not every call you field contains a winnable case, you can still use your expertise to help bring clients and attorneys together, all while building your reputation as a source of knowledge and trusted advice. Seek out challenge and you'll be rewarded. To grow as an individual and as a firm, you need to set and meet ever-higher goals and hold yourself accountable. The bigger the challenge, the sweeter the victory! Links and Resources The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Michael Mogill Facebook Michael Mogill Twitter Michael Mogill Instagram Michael Mogill LinkedIn Crisp Video Website Crisp Video Facebook Crisp Video Group Twitter Crisp Video Instagram Crisp Video LinkedIn Jay Kelley Website Jay Kelley LinkedIn Elk + Elk website

Transcript

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And you see it with some of those lead generation companies or people that pay-per-click certain terms, and that's unsustainable.

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That's Jay Kelly, managing partner of renowned Ohio personal injury firm Elken Elk.

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You are measuring an ROI that is so transactional and finite that it can't survive.

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If you can build a brand, that will lift all of those transactional approaches that you make.

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So instead of starting at the goal line, you get to start at the 10-yard line or the 50-yard

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line, the shorter you have to go to get a positive ROI.

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I'm Michael Mogul, founder and CEO of Crisp Video, the nation's number one law firm

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growth company. I've built my business through practice, not theory. Chris started with just

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$500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the last few years, earning a spot on the Inc 500 list of the fastest growing private

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companies in America. Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating

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massive growth within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious and

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committed law firm owners do the same for theirs. In each episode of this podcast, I sit down

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with innovative market leaders from the legal industry and beyond. To learn from those who law firm owners do the same for theirs. In each episode of this podcast, I sit down with

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innovative market leaders from the legal industry and beyond. To learn from those who thrive

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in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a true

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game changer. I sat down with Jay Kelly to discuss what it takes to establish a strong brand identity,

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as well as building a business that stands the test of time, and what it

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means to carry on a law firm's legacy.

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This is a very risky business, but at the end of the day, you've got to bet on yourself,

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you've got to bet on your business, and you've got to reinvest, reinvest, reinvest.

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That's coming up on the game-changing attorney podcast.

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Jay Kelly is the managing partner of Elk and Elk, one of the largest and best-known personal

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