This is Jennifer Gonzalez welcoming you to episode 27 of the Cult of Pedagogy Podcast.

In this episode, part two of a two-part episode, I interview an instructional coach to learn

how he helps teachers get better at teaching.

So, in part one of this two-parter, I interviewed Gretchen Schulteck-Pridgers.

She is an instructional coach in North Carolina and we talked a lot about the work she does

and how she does it and how she got to be doing it in the first place.

And I thought it would be a good idea to get a broader perspective on instructional

coaching if I interviewed another person too.

And so I also interviewed Eric Sandberg who is an instructional coach in Pennsylvania.

And so this is part two.

If you want to hear the other part, it's episode 26.

And I'll tell you one of the things that I'm learning from listening to both of them

is that you don't necessarily have to have an interest in instructional coaching to get

something from this episode because it's not just instructional coaches who are tasked

with helping teachers improve their teaching.

People who are administrators have to do this.

People who are mentor teachers.

Every state has different kinds of teacher mentoring programs and then other times we have

informal relationships with other teachers where maybe they're asking us for help or maybe

we're seeing that they could use some help.

And so I think listening to both Gretchen and Eric, it's really helpful to hear how they

approach the work and how much they value relationships and how carefully they approach

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