Summary In this conversation, Tim and Father Jim Gretzky discuss various topics related to Catholicism and the role of priests and bishops. They touch on issues such as the traditional Latin mass, Catholic teachings on abortion and IVF, and the role of priests in parish communities. They also discuss the COVID-19 pandemic and its impact on the Catholic Church. Throughout the conversation, they highlight the importance of understanding the complexities of Catholicism and avoiding generalizations or false judgments. In this conversation, Tim and Father Jim analyze a speech given by NFL player Harrison Butker at Benedictine College. They discuss the recurring theme of longing for a mythological past and the connection between Christian nationalism and the desire to return to a privileged time. They also explore the traditional Catholic view of marriage and the importance of adhering to Catholic traditions. Father Jim provides insights into the Catholic perspective on issues such as birth control and the role of men in society. They highlight the need for nuance and understanding in discussions about faith and the dangers of fundamentalism. Takeaways Understanding the complexities of Catholicism is important to avoid generalizations or false judgments. The role of priests and bishops in the Catholic Church is multifaceted and requires a deep understanding of theology and pastoral care. The COVID-19 pandemic presented challenges for the Catholic Church, but decisions made by bishops and priests were often based on public health guidelines and the safety of parishioners. Recognizing the authority of bishops and priests is essential in understanding the role they play in leading the Church and administering the sacraments. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Overview 02:03 Exploring the Complexities of Catholicism 10:23 The Role of Priests and Bishops in the Catholic Church 15:07 Understanding Catholic Teachings on Abortion 25:22 The Importance of Charity and Staying in One's Lane 30:27 Avoiding Generalizations and False Judgments 38:29 The Role of Priests and Bishops in Parish Communities 47:00 Reflecting on Past and Present Leadership in the Catholic Church 48:59 Longing for a Mythological Past 52:18 The Traditional Catholic View of Marriage 59:47 God-Centered Pride and Glorifying Him 01:09:22 The Catholic View of Marriage 01:17:32 The Importance of Tradition in Worship 01:25:26 Surrounding Yourself with People Who Sharpen You 01:31:49 The Catholic Position on Birth Control James Martin’s Books: The Jesuit Guide to (Almost) Everything: A Spirituality for Real Life My Life with the Saints In Good Company Greg Boyle’s Books: Tattoos on the Heart Barking to the Choir The Whole Language Greg Boyle’s webpage If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices