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The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

269. Jan Dils — Leading the Largest Female-Founded Law Firm in America [Encore Edition]

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Management, Business, Marketing, Entrepreneurship

5.0538 Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2024

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Imagine a world without women. It's impossible, right?  Women are the unsung superheroes in the office, at home, and everywhere in between. Whether it's late nights or early mornings, they relentlessly pursue the respect they deserve — and Jan Dils is leading that charge. As the owner of the largest female-founded law firm in America, Jan is committed to changing lives with an unwavering sense of responsibility and resilience. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jan delve into: Turning criticism into growth fuel Why work-life balance is a myth Scaling your impact to leave a lasting legacy ---- Show Notes: 02:27 – Jan Dils’s origin story 05:03 – How Jan got thrown into the deep end, trying cases the week she graduated from law school 06:38 – What gravitated Jan towards Social Security & Disability law 08:19 – The risks and investments required to run a volume practice 09:19 – Jan’s establishment as a legal advertising trailblazer 10:34 – Creating the legendary jingle: “She won’t take no for an answer” 13:26 – Facing and overcoming sexism in the legal industry 15:18 – Why the State Supreme Court tried to disbar Jan for marketing 18:13 – How Jan Dils expanded her law firm outside of West Virginia 19:00 – Jan’s 15-hour days and the work-life balance myth 22:05 – Jan’s motivation to grow her law firm despite setbacks and sacrifices 23:33 – Facing and overcoming the greatest setback of all: a breast cancer diagnosis 24:49 – How to truly scale a law firm 27:09 – The importance of culture at Jan Dils, Attorneys at Law 29:14 – Jan’s advice to female law firm leaders 31:07 – Jan’s approach to motherhood and definition of success 33:24 – The Better Human Goal 34:08 – What being a game changer means to Jan Dils ---- Links & Resources Jan Dils, Attorneys at Law Crisp West Virginia Jingle Charleston Gazette LSAT  ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #107 Randi McGinn: Trial Attorney and Senior Partner at McGinn, Montoya, Love & Curry #137 Camille Vasquez: Johnny Depp’s Attorney in the 2022 Defamation Trial against Amber Heard #102 Laura Wasser: Elite Celebrity Divorce Attorney and Partner at Wasser, Cooperman & Mandles

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0:00.0

I always led by example. I was just the hard worker. I'm the first one in, last one out,

0:06.9

the hard worker, hard worker, work harder, work harder. And at some point you're like, I'm on a hamster wheel here.

0:12.1

That's Jan Dills, founder of Jan Dill's attorneys at law, the largest female founded law firm in the country.

0:18.2

It took years to get this done because things change.

0:21.4

You process as you scale, processes change as fast, so you have to keep changing changing.

0:25.9

But it was a start.

0:27.1

Really, the key was getting the foundation and the core and who we are and then building from there.

0:43.9

I'm Michael Mogul, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth company.

0:46.6

I've built my business through practice, not theory.

0:52.0

Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the last few years,

0:54.8

earning a spot on the Inc. 500 list of the fastest growing private companies in America. Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about

0:59.0

generating massive growth within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious

1:03.1

and committed law firm owners do the same for theirs. In each episode of this podcast,

1:07.0

I sit down with innovative market leaders from the legal industry and beyond to learn from

1:11.5

those who thrive in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a true game changer.

1:18.1

Today, we're revisiting one of our most popular episodes from the podcast where I sat down with

1:22.2

Jan Deals to discuss the origin and evolution of our iconic jingle, how to transform criticism

1:27.3

into fuel for growth,

1:28.7

and how to scale your impact and leave a lasting legacy.

1:32.1

You always have to think about making sure that your clients are taken care of

1:35.6

and your team's taken care of,

1:37.0

and now that all I want to do is develop my team

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