This is Jocco podcast number 269 with Echo Charles and me, Jocco Willink.

Good evening, Echo.

Good evening.

And also joining us tonight is Dave Burke.

Good evening, Dave.

Good evening.

The last podcast with Lafe, we covered the first part of this Marine Corps manual, which

I don't even know if it's not really a manual.

It's like somebody made this.

It's called The Squad Leader Makes a Difference.

And I know who made it actually, Lieutenant MM Abaldé and Lieutenant AM Atero.

They made it at the War, the Marine Corps Warfighting Lab in August of 1998.

And we're going to push through the last few pages of this book that we didn't cover

last time.

But then we're going to dive deeper into the last example, which I actually moved to the

end.

If you've ever wondered where these podcasts come from, where my mind is going, if you've

ever wondered how I'm thinking through these things, this is an opportunity to follow me

down a path of discovery, to learn more about leadership, to learn more about human nature,

and about war, and about history, and about fear, and about sorrow, and about life, and

about death.

It's an interesting ride.

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