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Indie Hackers

#269 – Bouncing Back from Failure to Bootstrap Past $2M/Year with Josh Ho of Referral Rock

Indie Hackers

Courtland Allen and Channing Allen

Startups, Entrepreneurship, Makers, Indie, Bootstrapping, Online, Technology, Business, Founders, Bootstrappers, Ideas, Tech, Indiehackers, Hackers

4.9 β€’ 606 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 22 February 2023

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Josh Ho (@jlogic) talks raising kids, automating word-of-mouth growth, bouncing back from a previous failed business, and bootstrapping beyond $2M in annual revenue with Courtland (@csallen) and Channing (@ChanningAllen).

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0:00.0

Hey, what's up, dude? How's it going?

0:07.6

What's going on, man? I got a question for you. It's based on this Washington Post article

0:14.2

that I read this past weekend. Hey, what's going on? Josh? Hey, what's up, Josh?

0:19.2

Hey. Actually, you're in time for a question that I've

0:22.7

got for actually both of you. I just read this Washington Post article this past weekend.

0:28.2

The article is the happiest, least stressful, most meaningful jobs on earth. It was a survey,

0:33.1

and it like, you know, surveyed basically every job and kind of categorized them. So either of you take

0:38.9

this one. What do you think is the single most stressful, least happy job on earth? And this is

0:45.5

mostly like, think of American jobs. The least happy, most stressful. I don't know, like a police

0:50.5

officer? A teacher? It's lawyer.

0:55.5

Lawyer.

0:56.5

Okay.

1:00.8

Now what do you think is the least stressful and happiest and most meaningful?

1:02.5

I don't know.

1:05.0

Not a teacher, I don't think, because being a teacher is pretty stressful.

1:07.7

I don't know.

1:31.0

Like being like maybe like someone like like a volunteer work or working with like charities or something. I'm not sure. Josh, what do you got? Children's book author. Yeah, children's book author. No, neither of you. You're not in the sit. You're not even in like the right segment. It is a lumberjack and or a farmer. I could say that. working outside working with their hands in nature i can see that it's like they don't they don't necessarily go into why

1:37.1

but it's like Cortland you've read that book drive right which is like one of the motivations behind

1:42.4

finding like you know pleasure at work.

1:45.3

And if you think about an attorney, you don't really have that much autonomy, right?

1:49.9

You're kind of like in this big machine.

1:52.3

You're kind of disconnect.

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