268: Political Gravity’s Inevitable Pull with Judd Legum
The Lincoln Project
The Lincoln Project
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🗓️ 11 August 2023
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Host Reed Galen is joined by Judd Legum, Founder and Author of the Popular Information newsletter. They discuss how those inside the Washington ecosystem don’t seem to be adequately alarmed that Donald Trump could return to office, how Ron DeSantis is influencing the Republican field despite his atrocious campaign, and how the changing dynamics between Democrats, Republicans, and corporations will influence 2024. If you’d like to ask a question or share a comment with The Lincoln Project, send an email to podcast@lincolnproject.us.
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| 0:32.5 | And now on with the show. Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. |
| 0:43.1 | I'm your host, Reid Galen. |
| 0:45.1 | Today, I'm joined by Judd Legham, the writer of the Daily Newsletter, Popular Information. |
| 0:50.2 | Before that, he founded Think Progress and was research director on the 2008 Hillary Clinton presidential campaign. |
| 0:56.5 | Judd, welcome back. Thanks for having me, Reid. So, as I said right before we started recording, |
| 1:02.4 | I love astronomical metaphors in politics, but I do believe that some candidates, even if they |
| 1:07.6 | have no chance of winning, do have a political gravitational effect on races. |
| 1:12.1 | And I think that Ron DeSantis fits into that. |
| 1:14.1 | So I want to get to that in a minute. |
| 1:15.6 | But before we go south, I want to go to the Beltway, inside the Beltway, and get your sense of someone who has worked in politics, if not as long as I have, but pretty close. |
| 1:26.6 | Your sense of, if you agree with this idea, |
| 1:30.3 | why so many people in the political firmament in this country, Republicans, Democrats, media, |
| 1:36.8 | lobbyists, political bureaucrats, association people, why there isn't more, frankly, |
| 1:42.8 | hair on fire about the idea that someone like Donald Trump |
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