Hello and the world is disturbed right now it seems there's so much sadness.

I am Cy Kellett, your host.

And the world is disturbed right now.

It seems there's so much sadness, so many broken hearts,

a great deal of almost despondency, fear, all of those things right now in the world,

and it's hard to be happy. I think a lot of people are searching around for their happiness,

maybe happiness that they were easy that was easy to locate even just a few short months ago is hard to find now. It's not the case for everyone, but it's

certainly the case in many parts of the world and among many people. And so the question

of joy comes up then, the question of what is this Christian joy all about, and if I'm not experiencing it at the moment, I'm not experiencing maybe the usual comforts and happiness that I have in the

constellations that I usually have in my life. Maybe it's a good time to ask about what is

Christian Joy? Where am I supposed to find it? And is it something that can help me

through and be a part of even times like these to help us talk about joy.

We welcome actually a very joyful person, a person who's also a joy to be around, our good friend and chaplain, Father Hugh Barber,

who is also a Norbertine priest and former prior of St Michael's Abbey in Orange County.

Hello, Father.

Hello there. Was that too much of a downer?

To be here. No, not at all. Joy is just about it's about everything. So you could you could give

an introduction introduction on Joy and manage to hit at least one or two points perfectly and you hit them all except for one which I will add.

Joy is used in two ways in Catholic theology and spiritual theology.

First of all, it can be used to refer to the emotion of joy,

which is when we experience obtaining whatever good thing it is that we are desiring on the level

of our feelings or of our bodily name, which is ordinarily called

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