267. The Rio Trio: A Cocktail of COPs
Outrage + Optimism
Persephonica
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🗓️ 17 October 2024
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
This week, our hosts dive into The Rio Trio! No, this is not the name of a new cocktail but three COPs (Biodiversity in Colombia, Climate in Azerbaijan and Desertification in Saudi Arabia) which are about to happen back-to-back. Plus the plastics treaty negotiations in South Korea.
Join our hosts for their take on the history of these three different but interrelated COPs, all conceived in the Earth Summit in Rio in 1992. How have they evolved, and how might they continue to evolve to be fit for purpose in a changed world? Since this subject is complex, Christiana uses her get-out clause and phones a special friend for much-needed clarity.
Christiana also asks the question: If we had a blank slate now, would it make more sense to kick start a process based on all nine planetary boundaries? Would this help us focus holistically on the interconnected challenges we face? Sit back and listen as the hosts try to make sense of this negotiating super season for the planet and all its peoples.
Please keep tuned for special and in-depth coverage from the Outrage + Optimism team to guide you through each of these key moments.
NOTES AND RESOURCES
How COPs are organised - Questions and answers
From Cancun to Durban: Implications for Climate and Multilateral Diplomacy by HE Patricia Espinosa
COP16 host Colombia pushes for unified UN climate and nature pledges
COP Presidencies Launch ‘Rio Trio’
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to outrage and optimism I'm Tom Dickinson. Hello and welcome to Outrage and optimism. |
| 0:14.0 | I'm Tom Riffic Carnack. |
| 0:15.0 | I'm Christina Figuerais. |
| 0:17.0 | And I'm Paul Dickinson. |
| 0:18.0 | Today, we make sense of all the cops. |
| 0:20.0 | Thanks for being here. Oh, So friends, I'm going to start with a quick story. I was out for dinner last night with some friends here in lovely T nests where I live and it included |
| 0:52.8 | Nigel topping and he at one point talked about the Rio Trio and I thought he |
| 0:56.9 | was talking about a cocktail but actually I don't think that's correct and he |
| 1:00.1 | corrected me at the time a cocktail band or a cocktail drink. |
| 1:04.0 | A cocktail drink. |
| 1:05.3 | I assume that this was something that he picked up. |
| 1:07.0 | He's working very hard on the other conventions. |
| 1:09.3 | And I realized immediately my ignorance |
| 1:11.5 | that actually there are three conventions that came out of the Rio negotiations |
| 1:16.7 | many years ago and we have been talking together with our production team and also some of you |
| 1:22.2 | the listeners and realizing that I was not the only |
| 1:25.1 | one who didn't immediately know the differential and the specifics of these three different conventions. |
| 1:31.1 | And they're important. They're important in general and they're important. |
| 1:33.1 | They're important in general and they're important right now because in the next few months there are |
| 1:38.0 | going to be three critical cops under these three different conventions. |
| 1:41.8 | So today we are going to dive into history, |
| 1:44.4 | guided by Christina to help us understand |
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