This is the Baimaw podcast with Marty Solman. I'm his co-host, Brent Billings. Today we are joined by Redent to finish our examination of the sixth chapter of John, an attempt to bring some closure to this challenging portion of the text.

Redent is here to save the day. Well, that's a big ask. After last episode. Well, after 2000 years of wrestling with this passage. Right, exactly right. When I signed up for this portion to be my first portion of John, there was like one kind of bit at the end, which I think is where the discussion is going to land. But I was like, yeah, I want to talk about that. And then I started looking at the rest

of the other, you know, 40 verses that are here. And I was like, why did I sign up for this? Because I do not understand. And especially listening to the very awesome stuff that everybody else has been bringing to the table. And then I'm like, I don't know. I guess my only response can be what the disciples or the people are saying that this is a this is a hard saying. I don't I don't know.

So I don't know that there's going to be much closure or clarity. I was thrilled when you put your name on the document because when I thought of John, this is one of the few passages that I was like, oh, man, I do not want to do that passage. And then you picked it. And then when we started doing John, I've gotten multiple text messages or emails from folks like, man, what are you going to do with John six?

And I'm like, I'm not going to do anything. It was it's read. And then read was like, hey, do you want to do it with me? And I'm like, gosh, dang it. Well, see that was yeah, because once I started looking at it, I was like, I don't know what to say about this. I'll just make Marty talk with me.

Well, here we are. At first, I thought you were about to say something nice about me there, Marty, when you were saying you were glad it was me.

It's like that Spider-Man meme where the two Spider-Man are pointing at each other. Yeah. Yeah. I do love that. And pretty much and I am looking forward to it. Not that I feel like I have to say something nice about read.

But after last episode where we got to just kind of like honestly be like man, who knows we're just workshopping this like this is kind of part B of that. And I do love where the convert. I mean, because we were talking about today's conversation for a while. And yeah, I'm just excited about.

Where I do think it will land and don't get your hopes too much, you know, up too much about what landing means, but I do think I like what we're going to float in a general vicinity direction.

Well, I don't know if it's worth say I haven't heard the conversation from the last from the first part of John yet. So I may be we may circle back around to some of that a little bit.

We'll see. Do you think read the best way to do this is going to be to like kind of go we do every verse. So should we just go through like kind of every verse and just kind of talk about it and then.

And then reflect afterwards. What do you think we should do? Yeah, I think I think that's probably the way here. Just, you know, the standard Baymont program of let's read some verses and.

The things that don't make a lot of sense or maybe that there is something to say we can do some observing and then maybe we'll have something more substantial to say at the end. Maybe this one will just have more of the I don't know what this means, but isn't this weird.

More of that throughout the passage. But yeah, let's just see where it goes. Okay, we're starting where Brent, Brent Billings, where we start.

Well, I think we'll pick up the context of we'll start in verse 25, but I think I'm going to pick up some context. So, okay, Jesus feeds the 5,000 right and then end of the day. The disciples go down to the lake. They get on a boat. They don't have Jesus with them.

Big storm comes up. Jesus walks on the water. Storm goes away. They're immediately at the other shore. Then the next day the crowd is like, Hey, only one boat left and Jesus wasn't on it. So what happened.

And so they get all these other boats and then they go find them. So that's where we're at.

So verse 25, when they found him on the other side of the lake, they asked him, Rabbi, when did you get here? Jesus answered very truly. I tell you, you are looking for me not because you saw the signs I performed, but because you ate the loaves and had your fill.

Do not wait. Can I stop you? Can I stop you there? I'm sorry. It's it is the Bama away. That I'm so proud of you, Reed. That is.

Man, I'm just be mean right now. Man, this is this is my first episode of this kind of format. So I'm just, you know, I'm putting my toe in and I'm testing it out. You nailed it. 10 out of 10.

So so so when Jesus says you're seeking me not because you saw the signs, but because you ate your fill of the loaves.

I guess the thought that comes to my mind is, can you really separate those two things? Like there if there's a crowd of 5,000 people are like they they you can't separate the eating of the loaves from the seeing of the signs, right? Like they they saw the thing.

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