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Some Work, All Play

267. High Carb in the Tour de France, Our First (and Last?) Bike Race, Speed Endurance Workouts, Blood Panels for Athletes, and Protein/Carbs Study!

Some Work, All Play

David Roche and Megan Roche

Sports, Running

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 July 2025

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

We sat down gingerly on bruised glutes before this awesome episode! The main topic was on fueling data coming out of the Tour de France. High carb is ubiquitous in the cycling peloton. We use some of that information as a jumping-off-point to think about fueling for all athletes!

This one also came with stories from our first (and possibly last) gravel bike race. These aren’t your normal racing stories. You really have to listen to understand.

And the episode was full of great topics! Other topics: the blood panels we recommend for athletes (and how to get them), an incredible deal on our favorite gels, game theory in cycling, a new study on mixing protein and carbs for recovery, history is made at the Hardrock 100, what 49-year old Ludovic Pommeret’s win tells us about aging curves, the Kickr Run treadmill, plus a Q+A on speed endurance workouts, the importance of burping for athletes, timing strides in training, threshold training, easy paces for slower athletes, and competitive outlets outside of sports.

This one ends with the best burn in podcast history. Get your fire extinguishers ready.

We love you all! Huzzah!

-David and Megan

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Woo! Welcome to the Summerk All Play Podcast. We are so happy to do with you today. Happy Tuesday. It's

0:05.3

Tuesday. And my triceps are shredded on this Tuesday. Oh my God. My triceps are sore too. So is my neck.

0:11.3

So is my back. My hips. Everything is sore. And your hands, it looks like you got a, is that a blister on

0:16.1

your hands or is that from falling? It's a blister. It's bruises. My entire body is beat up. Actually, we have matching ass contusions. How does that happen? Yeah. Oh, my God. Our

0:27.0

butts. Our butts have seen better days. Okay, so we did our first bike race. We just hopped in a

0:33.1

gravel race here. I had biked two times in the last eight weeks or so. Megan hasn't ridden intensely.

0:39.8

So it was going to be a fun adventure. It was where we go every weekend up in Netherlands,

0:43.1

Colorado. And we got some learning in a major way. Okay. It was more technical than we expected.

0:49.4

All of a sudden, we just start biking uphill on these, like, massive sections of rocks.

0:53.3

And I was like, I've never gravel biked on this before. I need these like massive sections of rocks. And I was like, oh, I've never

0:54.6

gravel biked on this before. I need like suspension for this. I've never done anything.

0:58.3

Like, and I'm so proud of us for doing it. Like we didn't really know what we were getting into.

1:02.8

All I know is that about 10 miles in, I'm at the very front, you know, I'm off the front

1:07.5

a little bit after the big climbs that were on roads and easy gravel.

1:13.1

And I'm just like, maybe this is my calling.

1:13.7

Same.

1:14.0

Yeah.

1:15.1

I was feeling the same way.

1:16.1

I was in second place.

1:17.4

I was like, I'm crushing it.

1:18.5

I love gravel racing.

1:19.4

Sign me up for this.

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