Refactoring your code is a fundamental step on the path to professional and maintainable software.

We rarely have the perfect picture of what we need to build when we start writing code

and attempts to overplan and over-design software more often lead to analysis paralysis rather than

ideal outcomes. Join me as I discussed refactoring with Brendan McGinnness and Nick Thubman, as well as their tool,

Sorcery, which adds automatic refactoring in the popular Python editors.

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Brendan, Nick, welcome to

talk Python to me. Thank you very much. Thank you for having us. Yeah, it's great to have you here.

I'm such a huge fan of refactoring and code quality and all these ways of like taking living

software and making it evolve, right? I think long gone are the days of we have to plan

this perfectly and then we're going to build the perfect thing that we've thought up, right? And so

having this idea of continuously evolving and improving code, it just frees you from worrying

about trying to get it all right and you can just get started. And so I'm really excited to talk

about sorcery and refactoring with you guys. Awesome. Yeah, we think iteration is super important as well, sort of trying to get a skeleton of the thing up and running and then sort of tidying up later.

Yeah, absolutely.

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