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The Talk Show With John Gruber

265: ‘Thompson’s Razor’ With Ben Thompson

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2019

⏱️ 145 minutes

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Summary

Special guest Ben Thompson returns to the show. Topics include the latest Surface hardware announcements from Microsoft, the state of the iPhone, and bulk purchases of charcoal.

Transcript

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Just kicked out the chord to my MacBook Pro.

0:03.0

And guess what? It's not a problem.

0:07.0

Because I'm still using a 2014 MacBook Pro with MagSafe.

0:10.0

There you go. There you go.

0:12.0

You know, I was thinking about this. I still-

0:14.0

I still-

0:15.0

I'm still getting feedback from people about that Brian Chen.

0:20.0

I don't know if you listen to me in NELI on the Vergecast podcast.

0:25.0

I did. I did. I enjoy the two of you always.

0:29.0

I knew you were in top of that article.

0:31.0

So I made this special flight to make sure to listen to it.

0:33.0

Well, I also think-

0:34.0

Wasn't that the one, too, where we sung your praises?

0:37.0

It was discussed.

0:38.0

I think you met us as something kind. I appreciate it.

0:40.0

I know you're going to listen, too. Son of a bitch.

0:43.0

But anyway, one aspect of this is the whole theory that people like me and NELI

0:54.0

and other people who write these reviews are cheerleaders telling people

0:58.0

to go buy the newest thing, buy the newest thing, buy the newest thing.

1:02.0

Just isn't true.

1:03.0

And the fact that I'm using a 2014 MacBook Pro, it's literally five years old at this point.

1:07.0

I believe I even bought it around this time of the year in 2014.

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