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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

265. Meritocracy or Else | Dr. Adrian Wooldridge

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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Education, Science, Society & Culture

4.634.5K Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2022

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Adrian Wooldridge is a political editor at The Economist and author of the new book ‘The Aristocracy of Talent: How Meritocracy Made the Modern World.’ In this episode, Dr. Wooldridge and I discuss how his new book has been received, the history of meritocracy, how IQ testing shaped educational policy, group-based judgement, and the importance of defending liberal individualism. —Links— Follow Dr. Wooldridge on Twitter: ​​https://twitter.com/adwooldridge ‘The Aristocracy of Talent: How Meritocracy Made the Modern World:’ https://amazon.com/Aristocracy-Talent... More books by Dr. Wooldridge: https://amazon.com/kindle-dbs/entity/... —Chapters— [0:00] Intro [1:06] Reviews of ‘The Aristocracy of Talent’ [3:47] Measuring the Mind, History of IQ Testing, & British Education [7:22] 11+ System vs. the Modern Prolonged Educational System [10:22] Workplace Selection Tests [11:58] IQ Literature & IQ Testing for the US Military [14:55] Michael Young’s ‘The Rise of the Meritocracy’ [16:58] Pareto Distribution, Matthew Principle, & Creative Achievement Tests [18:22] History of Meritocracy [22:43] Conflating Moral Worth with Intellectual Ability [24:25] Conceptual Inadequacy & “Bell Curve Liberals” [29:45] Blank Slate Argument & Ethnic Differences in IQ Testing [34:59] White Working Class in England [37:45] Perception of Meritocracy in the UK vs. US [42:21] Judging People as Group Members [48:17] Distinction Between Affirmative Action & Diversity [51:36] Idea of Meritocracy as Propaganda for the Elite [54:00] Openness of Competition of Examinations [56:10] Foucault & the Complexity of Perception [59:55] Social Justice, Economic Efficiency & Growth Rates [1:05:35] Challenges to Western Dominance [1:10:59] European Ladder of Opportunity & Plutocracy [1:14:32] Ethics: Levels of Analysis

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Hello everyone, I'm pleased today to have as my guest, Dr. Adrian Woolridge.

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Dr. Woolridge was born in 1959 and educated at Bollyll College, Oxford,

0:29.1

where he took her first in modern history,

0:31.4

and all souls college where he held a prize fellowship

0:34.4

and was awarded a D fill.

0:36.3

His thesis was published as measuring the mind.

0:40.3

He's worked for the Economist magazine since 1988,

0:43.4

including as West Coast Bureau Chief,

0:45.6

Washington Bureau Chief,

0:47.2

an author of the Lexington Column Management Editor,

0:50.4

and author of the Shumpeter Column,

0:52.8

and political editor,

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and author of the Beigehawk Column.

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He's the author or co-author of 10 books,

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including The Right Nation,

1:01.3

Conservative Power in America with John McElthweight,

1:05.0

Capitalism in America with Ellen Greenspan,

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his most recent book, which I recently read,

1:11.1

is The Aristocracy of Talent,

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How Maritocracy Made the Modern World.

1:16.7

I've rarely researched or been able to talk with someone

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