Welcome to the You Are Not So Smart Podcast.

Episode 265.

Did you enjoy the Queen's Gambit?

Well, we're going to talk about it in this episode because I have an actual chess champion

in Jennifer Shahadeh is a two-time U.S. women's chess champion, an author, a speaker, and

a professional poker player.

She was the first woman to win the U.S. Junior Open and she hosts two award-winning podcasts,

The Grid and Ladies Night, Canite, Ladies Night.

The Grid won a global poker award for the best poker podcast in the world.

She has written for The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, and The New York Times,

and she's the author of Chess Queens, the true story of a chess champion and the greatest

female players of all time.

Jennifer is our guest in this episode.

And before we get into the interview, I'd like to tell you a little bit about one of

the women's you write about in the book.

In Chess Queens, Jennifer writes about how in 1937, in simmering Austria, Vera Minchik,

and Sonia Graf faced off against each other in a game of chess.

But not just any game of chess.

These were two of the greatest chess players of all time facing off.

For the first time, it was the women's world championship, which had been founded a decade

earlier in 1927 by the International Chess Federation itself founded in 1924.

Jennifer writes about how the two women had very different playing styles, very different

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