Hey, welcome back to Silent Sales Machine Radio. I'm your host, Jim Cockrum of SilentGim.com.

You can jump over there and hear all of our episodes. But from time to time, we like to turn on the

video camera and record a few too. So if you're watching us on YouTube, thanks for joining us.

You should know that there's

literally a couple hundred episodes that are available to you that are all as awesome as this one

that you can only listen to by having a podcast app and going over to our website and checking it out

there. But for those of you who are either watching or listening today, we have a treat. I've got

Abe Ordelani on the line today. He's going to jump on the screen with me in just a moment. We're

going to spend some time talking to him. If we go back in history just a little bit, it's been a

couple years ago. He was a guest on this show. And he tells his story. It's worth going back and listening to. I think it was episode 90 because I just interviewed him and I'm doing the introduction now.

That's the only reason I know because Abe reminded me.

But we'll stick a link in the show notes regardless to his first episode.

And the reason you want to check that out is because he was only recently had gone full time using the internet creatively after having been in

construction his whole life. He was raised in construction. He understood construction. He started

to have some health challenges that made it a little more difficult. So he started looking for

some other options. He had never used a computer before. He'd never sent an

email before. He'd never used a smartphone. And here he is one of the most creative, successful,

and influential leaders in our community of business building warriors just a few short years

later with all kinds of exciting content and ideas and strategies to share.

So you're going to enjoy a story today. I think you're going to definitely get some incredible

insights into what works and what doesn't work and how you can work with us and work with maybe

Abe, who's one of our great coaches at Jim Cockram Cochroom Coaching. That's Jim Cochromcoaching.com. But regardless of what

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