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The Greg McKeown Podcast

264. Family, Trauma, and Hope with Jennie Allen (Part 2)

The Greg McKeown Podcast

Greg McKeown

Education, Business, Self-improvement

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 16 January 2024

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Join us for part 2 of my conversation with Jeannie Allen as we unpack the complexities of our emotional responses and their surprising intensities. This conversation peels back the layers of our emotions, tracing them to their roots, and reveals how past experiences, like childhood fears and moments of crisis, can shape our present feelings. Listen in as Jeannie bravely navigates her history of fear and loneliness, illustrating the transformative journey of emotional untangling. The heart of human connection and the pain of potential loss are at the forefront of our discussion in this touching chapter. I open up about the tumultuous emotions I faced upon my best friend's cancer diagnosis, and the stark fear of losing a friendship that has been a cornerstone of my life. We examine the concept of safe attachment, where being heard equates to survival—a need as vital in our formative years as it is in our adult interactions. Finally, we delve into the significance of confronting deep-seated fears and the concept of 'primal panic' with Jennie, who offers her expertise on the subject. Our discussion shines a light on the importance of emotional intelligence and personal growth, and the power of empathy in the healing process. Engage with our heartfelt exchange, as we celebrate the courage it takes to untangle complex emotions, and consider how this understanding can profoundly impact our lives. Don't miss this opportunity to connect with your own emotional journey and perhaps find solace and inspiration in ours. Buy her book "Get Out of Your Head." Follow Jennie on LinkedIn, Instagram. Check out Jennie's website. Join my weekly newsletter. Learn more about my books and courses. Join The Essentialism Academy. Follow me on LinkedIn, Instagram, X, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome back everybody. This is part two in my conversation with the one and only Jenny Allen who is back here with a marvelous new book

0:18.3

Untangled your emotions in this episode. We are going to go deep and rapidly to what you can do about it so that if you have emotional responses in your life that surprise you, things that disproportionately affect you, you can start the work

0:37.3

to untangle them, figure out what's really going on underneath the surface, give it language so that you can not exactly

0:46.0

rise above those emotions, but be able to turn those emotions into something useful, the

0:52.4

building blocks with which to build a better life. So, Welcome back to the show, Jeannie. Great to be here. Thanks for having me, Greg.

1:13.0

So in the very first pages. the show, Jeannie. Great to be here. Thanks for having me, Greg.

1:23.0

So in the very first pages of this book, you talk about this idea of a disproportionate emotional

1:32.1

reaction.

1:33.6

Can you unpack that for us?

1:35.1

Sure, I'll start with the story.

1:36.6

So my daughter got married this past year

1:38.7

and it was a great day and this is a great guy and we are celebrating it we love this guy he feels like part of our family

1:46.4

this daughter of mine truly both my daughters are just two of my best friends. We are, it's the joy of having adult kids and.

1:56.2

Everything's good about this.

1:58.0

Yeah, yes, it's good.

2:00.0

We're happy.

2:01.6

And not long after they get married we're at dinner together and she starts

2:06.3

hypothesizing not even making plans but just in theory talking about moving away and at this moment they live in Dallas together and they still do and so they start talking about it and I

2:18.0

Remember like it causing a feeling in me that was so dramatic. I my skin hurt right like I just felt like my

2:26.9

heart was gonna come out of my desk. I was I was so bothered and I'm wise enough to know if I display a reaction like that that is not going to go well.

2:39.1

So I keep it together, but I'm sure my eyes look glazed over and I'm I'm like trying not to cry and so

2:46.5

this happens more than once they're dreaming about moving of course they are I move

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