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🗓️ 8 July 2020
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Laura Richards, Jim Clemente and Lisa Zambetti talk with Ginny Brown whose daughter, Kirby Brown, died at a New Age "Spiritual Warrior" retreat led by JAR in Sedona Arizona.
James Shore and Liz Neuman also died at the same event. Ginny talks about her daughter Kirby's zest for life, the day her life changed forever, the impact on family and friends, the ongoing battle she is fighting to ensure accountability and safety. Laura and Jim discuss whether this was a cult.
Please read the book The Sweet Life: How We Lived After Kirby Died by Ginny Brown and Jean Brown.
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| 0:07.0 | A stay-true became to my door and said, do you know Kirby Brown? |
| 0:12.0 | She was cooked to death. That's how she died. |
| 0:17.0 | This beautiful woman who was drunk on life and had friends all over. |
| 0:30.0 | During the five-day retreat at this campground outside Sedona, Arizona, participants were challenged to shave their heads. |
| 0:42.0 | Go on a 36-hour trek into the desert without food or water. |
| 0:47.0 | And ultimately, end up in a steaming hot sweat lodge, all in an effort to transform their lives. |
| 0:54.0 | It was in the sweat lodge where it all went wrong. Hot rocks doused with water, creating steam and temperatures well past 100 degrees. |
| 1:03.0 | Court room testimony revealed that people were screaming, throwing up, crying and babbling. Others were passed out. |
| 1:11.0 | Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clemente, Retard FBI Profile of former New York City prosecutor and right producer of CBS's Criminal Minds. And with me today is... |
| 1:21.0 | Laura Richards, Criminal Behavioral Analyst, former New Scotland Yard and Founder of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service. |
| 1:27.0 | And I'm Lisa Zambetti, I'm the casting director for CBS's Criminal Minds. And I have a real interest in Real Crime and the victims of those crimes. |
| 1:34.0 | And today we have a very, very special guest. |
| 1:37.0 | Hi, I'm Jenny Brown. We really had to talk about my daughter, Kirby Brown, who lost her life in a self-help event a little over 10 years ago. |
| 1:48.0 | And certainly that has completely kind of blown up our life and the life of many other people. |
| 1:54.0 | And she was a pretty powerful person with a big reach. |
| 1:59.0 | So many, many people's lives were affected by her death at this particular event that she was at. |
| 2:06.0 | Two other people died as well. 20 people were taken to area hospitals and some have sustained lifelong injury. |
| 2:16.0 | So it's really important to me that people know who my daughter was because she was such a big person. |
| 2:26.0 | And her voice, her life has been taken from her. And we certainly don't ever want something like this to happen to someone else who is seeking self-improvement in her lives. |
| 2:41.0 | Well, thank you so much for being here. And we all are hearts go out to you. And I'm sure our listeners, their hearts go out to you as well. We're sorry for your loss. |
| 2:50.0 | And one of the first things we'd like to do is tell us about Kirby. Tell us who your daughter was. |
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