#262: Profiling The “Guru” and the Spiritual Warrior Deaths , Part 2

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🗓️ 4 July 2020

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Laura Richards, Jim Clemente and Lisa Zambetti continue their discussion about the Wondery podcast "Guru" and discuss the deaths of Kirby Brown, Liz Neuman and James Shore on October 8, 2009 at a New Age "Spiritual Warrior" retreat conceived and hosted by JAR at the Angel Valley Retreat Center in Yavapai County near Sedona, Arizona.

Eighteen others were hospitalized after suffering burns, dehydration, breathing problems, kidney failure, or elevated body temperature.

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0:07.0	Three days later, and there are still more questions than answers about what caused the
0:12.9	deaths of Kirby Brown of Westtown, New York, and James Shore of Milwaukee during a spiritual
0:18.4	ceremony inside this makeshift tent called a sweat lodge.
0:22.5	The two were among the 50 followers at a retreat, and from details now merging, it was an
0:27.4	intense physical ordeal.
0:29.8	For about the fourth round, two participants were dragged to the door by the people attending
0:34.7	the sweat lodge.
0:35.7	It is believed that the entire sweat lodge lasted for eight rounds.
0:39.8	I'm not great, but I don't need a 9-1-1 call.
0:56.4	But I accept that, and the people are really bad.
0:57.9	We need to call somebody, and one of the volunteers, and she says, no, this happens every
1:01.0	year.
1:02.0	It's okay.
1:03.0	And unlike this is not okay, we're way past a 9-1-1 call.
1:06.8	That's when she told me, you're not allowed to call 9-1-1.
1:09.7	They did back in 2005.
1:11.0	Somebody did for Angel Valley and really ticked him off and we're not allowed.
1:15.5	I thought there was a problem with that.
1:18.1	So it's like, okay, we're going to finish our commitments.
1:20.6	But as far as he's concerned, he can do his dance.
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