263: Meghan Markle & the History of Influencers ft. Taylor Lorenz

Pop Apologists

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Society & Culture, Talk Radio

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🗓️ 4 March 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Lauren and Chan are joined by Taylor Lorenz to discuss all things related to internet culture. They dive into the following: The Socialite Rank (3:32), the social media ecosystem (11:33), parasocial relationships (14:35), aspirational content (20:18), mommy bloggers (28:33), the birth of influencer marketing (33:04), viral content shaping societal values (36:42), AI creators & digital clones (40:31), going from an influencer to being in the public eye with Meghan Markle (45:16), and finally, image curation and PR strategy with Gwyneth Paltrow (51:00). Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Clean Simple Eats: Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Earlybird: Click here to try Earlybird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. BetterHelp: This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Build your support system with Betterhelp. Visit betterhelp.com/popapologists to get 10% off your first month. Cozy Earth: Visit CozyEarth.com/POP and use our exclusive code POP for 40% off best-selling sheets, towels, pajamas, and more. Quince: Give yourself the luxury you deserve with Quince! Go to quince.com/apologist for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Progressive: See if you can save some money at Progressive.com. For more Pop Apologists, follow along at: @popapologists on Instagram @popapologists on TikTok Pop Apologists on YouTube To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday!

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0:00.0	the people who are like, she's so rich.
0:01.9	You know, she recommends things that are outrageously expensive.
0:04.6	It's kind of like, yeah, exactly.
0:06.9	She's super rich.
0:07.8	They're going to be rich people.
0:09.0	My favorite, Gweneathal, quote, is I can't pretend to make $25,000 a year.
0:14.1	Which is true.
0:15.5	And do we want her to?
0:17.2	No, no, we don't.
0:18.4	We really do not.
0:19.2	We don't.
0:24.3	Well, well, well, we are so excited because today we have Taylor Lorenz joining
0:30.0	pop apologists. Taylor is a former New York Times and Washington Post reporter who covers
0:34.8	internet culture. She wrote the book, Extremely Online,
0:37.7	The Untold Story of Fame, Influence, and Power on the Internet. She hosts the Power User
0:42.6	Podcast and Taylor writes a sub-sac newsletter called UserMag, which we follow and love.
0:47.9	Thank you. Welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. Of course. I have to tell you,
0:52.1	I was listening to Extremely Online. It is so captivating.
0:57.1	It is such a good book. It's so informational and educational, but I also feel like it's like,
1:02.2	if you grew up on the internet, it's just like so profoundly interesting to hear how this all came to
1:08.6	be. I feel like it fills in the gaps. It's like I'm taking a
1:12.1	college course on like the internet experience I lived as like a teenager. And it makes me feel
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