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You're listening to Minimalish, a podcast where we talk about simplifying our stuff,

our lives, our motherhood, all in a realistic way so that we can make

room for what matters. We're not here for perfectly tidy homes or seeing how much we can

possibly declutter. We're here for living with less. Realistically, it's going to look different

for all of us, but we're not really focused on how our version of minimalism looks anyways.

We're focused on how it feels.

I'm your host, Desiree. I'm a mom to two and on my own journey of living with a little less clutter so I can have more space for an intentional life. I'm no expert and I like to think

of this as a corner of the internet where we're learning and growing together. So let's walk

towards a more simple and intentional life. Here's this week's episode. Welcome back to Minimbalish.

Today I am bringing you our first replay episode of 2025. I mentioned last week when I did my kind of state of the podcast, what to expect for

2025, I mentioned that I will be bringing you one replay episode a month, and these will be

thoughtfully chosen. And today, we are going to be approaching a topic that we already approached earlier this month with another guest episode.

And that is our relationships with our phones.

We have another guest episode, a new one next month where we're going to be talking about the same topic.

And so that's why I chose to replay this specific episode.

It's because I think this is such an important topic, but also it's a great one to have

multiple perspectives, kind of multiple options and ideas on how we can change our relationship

with our phones because one thing does not fit all.

There are so many ways that we can work on our relationships with our phones.

And I absolutely loved this conversation that I had with Joey Odom, who's the founder of

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