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The Brendan O'Neill Show

262: David Frost: Are the Tories beyond saving?

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🗓️ 4 January 2024

⏱️ 62 minutes

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David Frost – former chief Brexit negotiator and Conservative peer – returns for this episode of The Brendan O’Neill Show. David and Brendan discuss the betrayal of the Red Wall and why Rishi Sunak cannot afford to ignore the culture war.

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0:00.0

It feels like where we are in politics at the moment in the Conservative Party as a lot of people wish we could

0:14.4

go back to the pre-2016 world and I think that is a total misreading of what people in the

0:21.9

country want and the general revolt against politics as as usual.

0:26.9

There's no future for the Conservative Party as a party purely of those who are kind of doing all right and if you revert to you know

0:35.3

waitros Southern England conservatism then it's on the way out.

0:42.0

Hello welcome back to the Brendan O'Neill show with me Brendan O'Neill and my special

0:46.8

guest this week, Lord Frost.

0:48.6

David, welcome to the show.

0:50.4

Great to be back.

0:51.4

Thanks, Brendan.

0:52.4

Happy New Year to you too. It's wonderful to be able to kick off

0:56.5

2024 by talking to you because this promises to be a big political year for the United Kingdom.

1:04.5

We have a general election in the offing. Some people are saying it will be in May. It looks like Tory

1:08.2

strategists are planning it maybe from November, but it's going to happen. And by all accounts, your party, the Conservative

1:17.2

Party faces electoral oblivion and it looks like labour will form the next government.

1:23.2

That's how things stand at the moment.

1:24.9

So it looks like it's going to be a year of change,

1:27.6

a year of disruption, a year of interesting things.

1:30.6

So I guess I want to start by asking you how you feel about 2024. Do you feel gloomy?

1:37.0

Do you think it's still possible for you guys to pull things back? Where do you think things are at politically in terms of the year ahead?

1:44.0

Well, it's hard not to feel a bit gloomy looking at what's going on in the world and looking

1:49.7

at conservative politics within the UK but I try not to I think it's important to

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