We're at McKay here and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness Podcast.

There's a growing feeling amongst Americans that we're suffering a crisis of leadership,

not only in our government, but our families and our businesses.

People today just seem to have less independence or agency and are less autonomous and more

directed by others.

Let's behind this lackluster leadership and what's the solution?

Well, my guess they argue the problem has to do with the way we're bringing up what

he calls excellent sheep.

And the solution is equal to the deep solitude and deep friendship.

His name is William Dreseritz and he's the author, several books and speeches including

a Jane Austen education, excellent sheep and solitude and leadership.

And today on the show, William and I discuss what most so-called leaders get wrong about

leadership and why learning to be alone with your thoughts helps forge better leaders.

We discuss the history of friendship and why friends are so hard to make at his adult and what

you can do to form deeper relationships.

And then William and I also talk about how young people can stop being excellent sheep

and jumping through hoop after hoop that's put in front of them in order to start living

on their own terms.

And we cap our conversation with an explosion of why men should give Jane Austen a chance

and the life lessons we can get from her novels.

This is an eclectic but wisdom-filled podcast.

You're definitely going to hear something you'll end up mentally chewing on for days to

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