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Wrongful Conviction

#261 Jason Flom with Clay Chabot

Wrongful Conviction

Lava for Good Podcasts

True Crime

4.65.7K Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2022

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

On April 19, 1986, the body of a 28 year old woman was found in her bedroom in Garland, Texas. She had been tied, gagged, raped and shot three times. Clay Chabot, a friend of the victim's husband, became the main suspect after voluntarily providing information to the police about his brother-in-law, Gerald Pabst, who had visited the victim's home on the morning of the murder. Initially telling police that he had no involvement in the crime, Pabst later changed his story by claiming that Clay had forced him to tie up the victim before she was shot. Despite no physical evidence linking Clay to the crime, he was convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison solely on the testimony of Gerald Pabst. To learn more and get involved, visit: https://guiltypleaproblem.org/?id=clay_chabot https://innocenceproject.org/clay-chabot-veterans-day-2018/ https://innocenceproject.org/ https://lavaforgood.com/with-jason-flom/ Wrongful Conviction is a production of Lava for Good™ Podcasts in association with Signal Co. No1.

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0:00.0

The Innocence Network is a loose affiliation of independent Innocence organizations.

0:04.2

And each year, members of these organizations, as well as the hundreds of exonaries who

0:08.7

they've helped free, gather for the Innocence Network conference.

0:12.5

And it's a beautiful thing.

0:15.2

For one weekend, the exonaries can all count on the fact that there are other people around

0:20.2

who share their experience and our team was honored to join them for their 2022 gathering

0:26.7

in Arizona.

0:27.7

We recorded a number of interviews and the damage that these stories do to your faith

0:31.8

and humanity is only then restored by the amazing people telling those stories.

0:40.4

Clay Shabo and his friend Doug Graham were bikers who dealt some drugs in Garland, Texas.

0:45.3

Clay's brother-in-law, Jerry Paps, was a customer.

0:48.7

With a newborn son, Clay was beginning to leave that life behind.

0:52.4

And on April 19, 1986, Doug Graham's common-law wife was found in her home, having been sexually

0:58.6

assaulted and shot dead.

1:01.2

When Paps returned a gun that he'd taken from his sister, he told her husband Clay about

1:05.4

how he was at Doug's that morning to buy drugs, heard gunshots, and fled.

1:10.7

Witnesses had seen Paps' car there and he was later found wearing bloody clothing.

1:15.1

However, even with all of this evidence pointing towards Paps', he was able to redirect

1:20.3

detectives towards his rough-looking brother-in-law, Clay Shabo.

1:25.0

A rape kit was performed, but in 1986, the DNA testing that would one day exclude Clay

1:30.4

was not available.

1:32.4

Curiously, no blood type evidence was presented.

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