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The Screenwriting Life with Meg LeFauve and Lorien McKenna

261 | Clarity, Subtext, and Want vs. Need: Kaz Firpo on Crafting Great Screenplays

The Screenwriting Life with Meg LeFauve and Lorien McKenna

Meg LeFauve & Lorien McKenna

Tv & Film

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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JOIN TSL WORKSHOPS: https://tslworkshops.circle.so In this episode, Meg and Lorien sit down with Kaz Firpo (Marvel’s ETERNALS, RUIN) to talk about the timeless craft lessons that make a great screenplay. From writing scenes that still land without sound, to creating emotional clarity on the page, Kaz shares why subtext is the secret engine of great dialogue, and why every character’s want and need should always be at odds. Whether you’re on draft one or draft fifteen, this conversation will help you sharpen your scenes, clarify your characters, and trust your instincts as a writer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, welcome back to the screenwriting life. I'm Meg Lofo.

0:07.9

And I'm Lori and McKenna. And today we're excited to be chatting with Kaz Fearpo.

0:12.6

Kaz is a director, screenwriter, and photographer, born and raised in the forest of northern California,

0:17.9

a graduate of NYU's Tisch School of the Arts. His work has landed him on the

0:22.4

Forbes 30 under 30 and at the top of the blacklist. As a filmmaker, Kaz documented the front

0:28.4

lines of the Syrian refugee crisis, creating the refugee project, which premiered at South by Southwest.

0:34.5

He also collaborated with UNICEF and the World Wildlife Fund to tell stories of hope

0:38.8

and conflict zones around the world. Represented by CAA, Kaz stormed into Hollywood with his cousin

0:44.3

and writing partner Ryan Fearpoe with their blacklist topping World War II thriller Ruins starring

0:50.1

Galgado, before kicking off phase four of the Marvel Cinematic Universe with Eternals,

0:56.6

directed by Academy Award winner, Chloe Zhao.

0:59.7

Right now, Kaz and Ryan are creating Butch and Sundance for Amazon, starring Glenn Powell and Reggae Jean Page with the Russo Brothers producing,

1:07.9

and their original sports drama Big Wave for Make Ready and Apple is on the way.

1:13.4

Welcome Kaz to the show. It is an honor Meg and Lorien. I'm a huge fan of you as artists and of the

1:20.9

show. I listen to all the time. So thank you for having me. It's a pleasure. And from your from your bio,

1:26.0

we know how busy you are. Holy smoke.

1:27.9

So we really appreciate you being here.

1:30.5

And Kaz has agreed to do our first segment, which is Adventures in Screenwriting, or How Was

1:35.9

Your Week?

1:36.5

Lurian, how was your week?

1:38.0

Earlier in the week, I had an amazing chat with Meg about a feature idea I have. And it's that fun thing where, okay,

1:47.3

I have this kind of idea and I think it has legs and works. And then the person that you're

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