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Making Sense with Sam Harris

#260 — The Second Plane

Making Sense with Sam Harris

Waking Up with Sam Harris

Samharris, Currentevents, Politics, Ethics, Religion, Neuroscience, Science, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.629.1K Ratings

🗓️ 9 September 2021

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of the podcast, Sam Harris recalls his experience of September 11th, 2001, and considers the future of American foreign policy.

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Welcome to the Making Sense Podcast. This is Sam Harris. Just a note to say that if you're

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Anyone over 40 probably has very vivid memories of September 11th, 2001.

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I certainly do. I can remember how angry I was in those first few days, or months, really.

1:05.8

I was angry over the event itself, of course, and for the loss of life,

1:11.8

and for the sheer disorder that had been unleashed in our world.

1:17.1

But as the days and weeks and months were on, I became especially angry over how confused

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and confused, otherwise sane and well-educated people were, about the threat we now faced.

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What I saw all around me was a kind of implosion of moral intelligence,

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and those who saw our enemy clearly were often driven by their own dogmatic religious beliefs.

1:44.9

In my experience, the only people in the US who could be counted upon to understand what we

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faced were fundamentalist Christians, which gave me very little basis for hope that we would play

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our cards right. As many will remember, the sky on the east coast on 9-11 was unusually beautiful.

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It was a condition that's apparently described as severe clear by pilots.

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Most of us had never heard that phrase until after it was used on 9-11 to describe the unlimited

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visibility of that morning. It strikes me as a very apt phrase to describe how I felt on that day,

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and really, ever since, more or less from the moment that the second plane united flight 175

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