Hi everybody, Cheryl Acison here.

Welcome to another edition of the Cheryl Ackison podcast.

Today, a fascinating conversation with Dr. Tim Heinemarsh,

a family physician with 32 years of experience.

He is also the BS-free MD.

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Since the COVID disaster and all the misinformation put out by mainstream medicine,

the public health establishment and so on, there's certainly been a lot to criticize

in terms of doctors and their actions, hospitals,

insurance companies, and our federal officials.

But as I've reported and written about in my book, Follow the Science, there were also plenty

of free-thinking, critical-thinking doctors doing the right thing, trying to take care of their patients the way

that they were trained to do. And it took a lot of guts in this high pressure environment in which

they work, sort of a group think environment where there are a lot of incentives to go along

and get along. It took a lot of guts to step out of that comfort zone, but a lot of them

did. And you've heard from some of them in my podcast and on my TV show full measure.

But today you're going to hear from another one of them. Great conversation with the

free thinking, Dr. Tim Hindmarsh. About 25 years ago, I got involved. The hospital system I was

working with had a couple insurance lines that they were selling. And so there's a tremendous amount

of regulation that goes on with that. So I started doing utilization review for the insurance

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