We're bringing Australian True Crime live to Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne this July,

and I have to tell you that Brisbane sold out already.

Good for you, Brisbane, so we've quickly added a second show.

Now we can't keep adding more shows, so please make sure you get your tickets. Our special guests,

our forensic criminologist Santee Mallet in Brisbane and Sydney and the one and only Charlie Bazzina in

Melbourne. There'll be a Q&A of course so you can ask your own burning questions on the night but you

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We acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which this podcast is recorded.

We pay our respects to their elders, past and present and to Aboriginal elders emerging.

As I say, Brian, you and I are nearly there.

We haven't got that long to go. This is a very special episode of Australian True Crime.

I don't think Emily and I have This is a very special episode of Australian True Crime.

I don't think Emily and I have ever spoken so much about an interview.

We just kept calling and texting each other about it because it was such a privilege and so moving to speak to Brian and Carmel Russell, whose 17-year-old daughter Natalie was the final victim of Paul Charles Denier, also known as the Frankston serial killer.

This is Australian True Crime with Michelle Lorry and Emily Webb.

Come with us as we go beyond the news cycle to find out how people become killers, how people become victims, and what happens next.

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