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The Hello and welcome to another episode of Politics Theory Other.

My name is Alex Doherty and today I'm joined by Rodrigo Nunes.

We'll be talking about the election victory of Jaya Bolsonaro in Brazil. As always, you can listen to the podcast on

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Rodrigo Nunes is Professor of Modern and Contemporary Philosophy at the Catholic University

of Rio de Janeiro Brazil, and he's currently a visiting scholar at Brown University.

He's the author of Organization of the Organization

Luss, Collective Action After Networks. His writing has appeared in The Guardian, Al Jazeera,

Viewpoints and many other venues, and his new book, Beyond the Horizontal, Rethinking the

question of organization, is forthcoming from Verso. You can also follow Rodrigo on Twitter.

His handle is Orango Quango.

I thought we could begin just by talking a little bit about the charming figure of Jaya Bossaaro himself.

Obviously it was pretty clear yesterday that he was going to win the election and win it quite handily, but a couple of

months ago, few would have imagined him as president. Could you say something about his background,

his military career and his subsequent career as a congressman in the lower house of Brazil's

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