You're really sure-footed. You're like a mountain goat. Me, I'm like the slow one that everyone's rolling their eyes. Like, oh my gosh, hurry up so we can go. So we can have our turn.

You're better than you give yourself credit for.

This is the Exploring the National Parks podcast with Dirt in My Shoes.

My name is Ash and I'm a former park ranger and the founder of Dirt in My Shoes.

I think that the parks are best seen from the trail and I'm here to make National Park

Trip Planning easy.

And I'm John.

I carry the kids on the trails, tell stories, and notice all the things that Ash doesn't

care about much, like flowers.

Join us as we show you around America's spectacular national parks.

We're sharing our favorite places, fun facts, adventures, and misadventures.

And we'll even throw in a little trip planning. Let's start exploring.

Can I spill the beans? Yes. Okay, so I've been working on a new itinerary and it is for the

Black Hills and Badlands National Park. Oh, yeah. I'm so pumped up. I'm so excited to talk about Badlands today because I've just been like really deep into

the research of all the stuff and reliving all of our trips that we've been so that I can

put things together for an itinerary.

And I am just like, oh my gosh, I'm so excited.

So the itinerary, I haven't really announced it.

No.

But by the time this episode comes out, I probably will have already said something already.

Right.

But I'm just so excited because South Dakota is one of my very favorite places to go on family vacations. Yeah. There's something for everybody. It doesn't matter what you like to do. It doesn't matter how old you are. If you want to pay to do some really like kitsy, weird things, like museums and, you know, they've got like Bear World. They've got. Yeah, they've got lots of cool things that you can do. But there's a lot of free stuff you can do too or, you know, you just pay to go into a park and then you can hike and camp and paddle and just do everything to your heart's content. And so I am just, I'm so excited for this itinerary and I'm so excited to talk about Badlands. Oh, I love badlands. I'm so excited for this one too. We have so much fun when we go there. And I think I'm going to have a hard time restraining myself from like talking about all the other things besides just bad lands. I know. We're trying to focus in on badlands. Badlands, badlands, badlands today. Because there is just so much to do in the

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