One of the things I've said before is as Taz got older, she was 25, it was one week after a 25th birthday when the cops come to my door that she's at the hospital and I'm life

flighting her to Kansas City.

I mean we'd literally be texting on the phone and we're going to go see Star

is born. I mean, you know, this is not an expected thing. It was just a shocking thing. But I do believe that somehow she and I are working together on something we agreed to do somehow,

we agreed to do somehow, you know, way back when.

And I do believe that I will be joined back with her you know and

that we will have infinity together you know this time here on planet Earth is so

short so I get some comfort from that.

Hello there friends and welcome back to at the end of the tunnel.

Somebody said that phrase

reminded them of death and initially I was like death. No it's not a

podcast about death but then I thought about it and I realized, you know, it kind of is about death.

It's about death to the part of us that thinks we don't have enough of whatever we feel like

we need in order to pursue our passion, our purpose, or our calling in life.

It's a rebirth of what's truly important, which is saying yes to whatever's in our heart,

and I don't mean that in an airy fairy way. I actually mean that in a very

practical way. And these conversations are about real people with real obligations

and real obstacles and they found

somehow found the courage to say yes to what was in their heart

and because of that they found themselves on quite the adventure.

And speaking of which this week's guest could be the poster child for that paradigm.

Her name is Pam Grout, and she's a New York Times best-selling author, she's Travel Blogger who's visited every continent except for Antarctica,

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