Thanks for taking the time to download this BBC Radio 5 Live podcast.

To search for other podcasts you might like, click bbc.co.uk-5live.

Well, you'll also find out terms of use.

Hello, you're listening to the podcast version of the film program I'm Elmari,

in for Simon Mayo, who we don't know where he is.

No, no. We're searching for Simon.

That actually will become a theme.

It's probably going to be searching for the superstar.

Show business is a cussed thing, that's for the other.

That really struck you.

This will all make sense after people have listened to the program.

Yeah, it really did. It really hit me that.

And there's a, in searching for Sugar Man, which we talked to later.

There's a character, unafraid of coming across badly into this.

A man called Clarence Avent used to run Motown.

That's all in the future.

That's all in the future.

Thanks for listening to this podcast, wherever you may be in the bath on your bike.

On the Lou even, I don't know.

Are you going to start with an email before we go?

Yes, but you can go straight.

Do a doctor and lokom, which I like.

...