259: Tackling Stigma and Reform in Substance Use Disorder Susan Bartz Herrick & Dr. Arun Gupta
The Addicted Mind Podcast
Duane Osterlind, LMFT
4.8 • 621 Ratings
🗓️ 13 November 2023
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
Do we truly understand substance use disorder? How can we dismantle the barriers to treatment? Join this latest episode with Duane as he interviews Susan Herrick and Dr. Arun Gupta tackle the stark realities of substance use disorder.
Susan, a mother turned advocate, opens up about her son Luke's poignant battle with addiction, underscoring the heartrending struggle to access effective, science-based treatment. Dr. Gupta, contrasting Susan's narrative, brings his clinical expertise honed in India, highlighting the regulatory and educational hurdles that hinder the efforts of those battling addiction.
Their stories align on one point - the desperate need for reform in this space. As we dig deeper, we uncover the shocking missteps and damaging regulations that have shaped the addiction treatment landscape. The criminalization of treatment has delayed access to vital medicines like Suboxone, stigmatizing those in dire need of help. Additionally, the unchecked rise and fall of Oxycontin – its unrestricted use igniting a peak in 2002 and 2003 – provides a chilling backdrop to today’s discussion. This episode uncovers the strength and grit of those battling substance use disorder and highlights the imperative need for effective treatment strategies, leaving us with this question: What if we could erase the stigma surrounding addiction?
In this episode, you will hear:
- Substance use disorder and treatment barriers
- Implications of regulations on suboxone treatment
- Stigma's impact on addiction treatment
- Strategies for addiction treatment and support
- Expressing gratitude and encouraging interaction
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Slow Dancing with the Devil
https://www.amazon.com/Slow-Dancing-Devil-Substance-Disorder/dp/1476693897
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of the Addicted Mind podcast. |
| 0:09.9 | My name is Dwayne Austerlund. I'm your host, and today we have two amazing guests. |
| 0:15.6 | First is Susan Herrick, and she's going to talk about her book, Slow Dancing with the Devil, |
| 0:22.9 | a son's substance use disorder, a mother's anguish. |
| 0:27.1 | Susan is going to share her story about her son's fight with addiction and the loss of her son, |
| 0:35.2 | Luke, and how getting treatment was so difficult and hard, |
| 0:40.9 | especially around getting medical treatment and treating addiction as a medical disorder |
| 0:47.9 | and using science-based treatment. |
| 0:51.1 | And it's just a heartbreaking story of the loss of her son. And our second guest on |
| 0:57.9 | this episode is Dr. Aaron Gupta. He has written a book, The Preventable Epidemic, a frontline |
| 1:05.3 | doctor's experience and recommendations to resolve America's opioid crisis. So we're going to talk to them together |
| 1:12.6 | about these two pieces of trying to get treatment and the treatment professionals trying to |
| 1:21.0 | treat these individuals who are struggling and the barriers to that process. And so I think this episode is really |
| 1:29.6 | informative. It's heartbreaking. And I'm just so glad that Susan was willing to come on and |
| 1:37.2 | share her experience to help support others and also to have Dr. Aaron Gupta's experience as well coming from the medical side of |
| 1:47.4 | this. So I hope you get a lot out of this episode. I think it's very informative and has a lot of |
| 1:52.4 | really good information. And if you are getting a lot out of the Addicted Mind podcast, |
| 1:58.0 | please write a review in iTunes. That really does help the podcast get found for all the |
| 2:03.5 | people that have taken the time to do that. Thank you. I really appreciate it. All right, |
| 2:08.4 | stay tuned for this episode. All right, everybody, welcome to the Addicted Mind podcast. I have two |
| 2:16.9 | wonderful guests today. I'm Susan Herrick and Aaron Gupta. |
| 2:22.0 | And we are going to hear Susan's story of her son and his struggle with substance use disorder. |
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