She's the victim of a suspicious death. She's not identified. I'm pretty sure she and you know anyone that's missing her would really want to know who she is.

When you get to this point in this cold case investigation and it seems like you've tried everything that technology has to offer today.

A lot of brick walls, a lot of doors slammed in your face for no apparent good reason.

Who's looking for them? Who's going to give their name?

Hello and welcome to best case worst case. This is Jim Clementi retired at the I profiler former New York City prosecutor and executive producer Fox's new America's most wanted and with me today is.

Hi everybody. It's francey hakes former state and federal prosecutor Jim. I'm super excited and really still on the edge of my seat because last week we had a returning guest and we have convinced him to tell us the rest of the story. So Chris, please introduce yourself.

My name is Chris McMollum of detective and Ben Salem Pennsylvania.

Well, but you're more than just a detective and Ben Salem Pennsylvania. You've been a detective and Ben Salem Pennsylvania for well kind of a long time.

Yeah, I've been here. I've been around a while. I've been here. I've been here since 92. Wow.

The one passion for me was the cold case homicides and I started opening up all the cold cases that we have and trying to work on them as much as I possibly could.

That's amazing. And last week we were talking to you about a Jane Doe who was found at the public floor distillery in a bunker and she was unidentified.

I know you said you were submitting the DNA of the fetal bones to see if that actually could get you closer to the identity of the father of that child.

Well, in the middle of all of that Chris and something that's just incredible just to remind our listeners in our Patreon subscribers that last week you told us that in the midst of trying to identify this Jane Doe at the public or distillery.

You managed to identify another Jane Doe who was a murder victim in New Jersey named Jeanette Tammy. And so I think it's incredible that sort of one cold case led to the identification of a victim in another cold case. And so that must have made you feel good. So after all that, what what happens next in your Jane Doe case.

It did make me feel good because it was the first time that it was the first experience I had where DNA in the code of system that it worked.

And I said, well, I said, well, then I'm not stopping because all I have to do is, you know, find the right theory and get the right family reference samples and I can figure out who this, who this girl is. So yeah, it put some wind in my sales.

That's awesome. I have to ask you, is there any way to submit it to one of the 23 in me organizations?

I tried that. In fact, Ray, I wanted to do that. And I was somewhat naive to that at the time I wasn't aware of, I don't even know if Jed match was on the scene yet, that's the public DNA database.

But I actually had contacted ancestry.com and 23 and me. I, you know, I just I want to their websites and contact us and I hit the link and I sent an email, but I sent it on letterhead. And I said, this is who I am. And this is what I'm doing.

And, you know, I basically got bombarded by corporate attorneys telling me that they can't do it because of privacy concerns with their clients.

And I was like, I don't want to tell you what I was like, but I was like, we can imagine.

Yeah, it's a very, it's a, it's a big frustration. I mean, I know Chris, when, when last time we talked about you and I met over this case and a documentary that we were, that we were filming about this, you know, that potentially involved your Jane Doe.

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