Welcome to the Squiggly Careers podcast. I'm Helen, one of your hosts. And this episode is the final one of the special series that Sarah and I created to bring to live some of the ideas and insights in our new book, You Coach You. In the series, we talked to lots of different experts to get their thoughts on how we can help ourselves through some of the knotty moments in a squiggly career.

We've covered dealing with distractions, we've covered overcoming constraints, we've helped

you build yourself belief, all of those things are there for you in the episodes and also

in the book because all of those episodes relate to a chapter in You Coach You.

And today, the chapter is purpose and the guest

that you're going to hear me talking to. Our expert today is David Hyatt. I'm very excited about

sharing this one with you because Sarah and I have admired his work for such a long time.

If you don't know him, he's definitely 100% well worth Googling after today. He is the co-founder of the inspirational

do lectures and also the co-founder of Hyatt Denham and the author of Do Purpose, just to name

a few of the things that he does. I find his posts on social media, compelling and inspirational.

It always makes me pause for thoughts, which I think is a good thing when you're in scroll mode on social media. And together in our conversation, we explore how to make purpose

practical, how to make it part of your everyday, because I think that is what he does so, so well.

He takes this concept of purpose that can sometimes feel a bit aspirational and he makes it like super

attainable like attainable on a day to day basis and that is what we talk about in the episode.

So I really hope you find this as practical and useful as I found this conversation and

well let's get started. If we think about running a business, I mean, the business wants to run us.

And mostly it can win. And so it's a daily fight between the business and me. And so I have to

like fight the business every day. And and there will be a time when you're running a business that's going to test you.

And if you're just running this business to make a ton of money,

have a nice life and all those things, they're good aims,

but it might not be enough for you to keep going.

And the reason we can think about purpose in practical ways is it's like grit, it's stubbornness,

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