Welcome back to dating intentionally. I'm Talia. I'm sharing no nonsense advice for navigating

dating and relationships with confidence and ease whether you've been dating for a while

or you're just starting out. I believe dating can be fun and I'm here to help you in the process.

Today's guests are a big deal, to me at least.

I was a little starstruck. You're going to hear from Charlene Joint and Andy Levine.

Charlene and Andy are the husband and wife host of Dear Shandy, which is a podcast I listen to

every single week and have for years. So if you're not familiar, a little

backstory. Charlene was on The Bachelor about a little over 10 years ago on Juan Pablo's season.

And, you know, she went on that season and then later met Andy, who on this show described

himself as someone who dated half of New York before they met,

his words, not mine. And together, they recap reality dating shows and give some of the most

balanced and grounded dating device out there. And today you're going to hear with us,

get into what reality shows teach us about modern dating, why Andy thinks online dating is the beginning

of the end of healthy romance, and the common mistake they see so many people make both on

reality dating shows and in real life. We also get into some super practical early dating tips,

which I can't wait for you to hear, and at the end, we get into a dating dilemma about travel

compatibility. If there was any

episode to watch on YouTube, it would be this one because we recorded in studio and this was my

first ever studio recording for my show. So head to YouTube to check it out. That is dating

intentionally on YouTube. You can search for it. You'll find it. It's there. And it was lovely to talk to

Charlene and Andy in person. As always, I love to hear from you. So if you have any questions or

thoughts on this episode, you can DM me on Instagram at dating.com. Drop a comment on Spotify or

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