At 18 I was playful with the game. Anything could happen from any moment. By the age of 26 I'd lost all playfulness. Completely. It was stress, expectation, pressure, fear of failure, everyone getting in my way, no one understanding me, no one caring.

Hi, my name is Rongan Chasjee. Welcome to Feel Better Live More.

This week's guest is Johnny Wilkinson, someone who I think can teach us all so much about what it means to live a happy and joyful life.

Now Johnny has recently launched his own podcast that's called I Am, on which he wants to redefine health, performance, purpose, leadership, relationships and human potential.

Now Johnny is one of the most decorated and recognizable faces in rugby history and he's probably best known for kicking the winning goal in 2003 to help England win the World Cup.

But this is not a conversation about rugby. This is a conversation about life and what it truly means to live a meaningful and contented one.

Johnny shares how winning the World Cup did not make him happy as he thought it would. In fact, it only led to disappointment, discontentment and a mental health crisis.

He describes how his relationship with rugby, the sport he loved and excelled at changed from initially being a celebration of his talent to later become something he wanted to do well at because he thought it would make him somebody.

Johnny has been to what I would call the extremes of life, extreme levels of success, but also extreme levels of discontentment and by going to those extremes, I think Johnny has learned some incredible truths and wisdom which he shares in our conversation.

Now we cover so many different topics including the difference between success and happiness and the price we often pay for pursuing our dreams.

We also talk about awareness, living in the moment and the importance of letting go of old beliefs when they no longer serve us.

We also talk about identity and how limiting the labels we put on ourselves can be and something I'm incredibly passionate about, how we can use resistance in our daily lives to grow and learn.

Now this really was a powerful conversation. It was so full, it was deep, it was engaging and I suspect it's one that at times you may find a little challenging.

In fact, I think it is one of those conversations that you may end up pressing pause and rewinds on quite a few occasions to really take in and absorb what Johnny is saying.

But I don't think that's a bad thing. This really was an incredible conversation that I think has the potential to transform the way you look at life.

I hope you enjoy listening.

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