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257: David Cameron… really?

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🗓️ 17 November 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Paul Embery, Tom Slater and Fraser Myers discuss the death of Tory populism, the tyranny of the Supreme Court and the two-tiered policing of protests.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the spike podcast I'm Fraser Myers and joining me on the show as ever we have

0:05.3

Spikes editor Tom Slater. Hello and back with us we have author and trade unionist Paul Embry

0:10.7

Coming up on today's show, the Tories in turmoil, the Supreme Court smackdown of the Rwanda

0:17.8

policy and the double standards of the Metropolitan Police.

0:30.0

So it's been a bit of a week of upheaval for the Conservative Party. Rishi Sunak has sacked Suella Braverman, his hardline home secretary in the reshuffle, and brought in David Cameron, a kind of figure from politics past.

0:40.0

Tom, what have you made of these changes? What do you think it says about the direction of the sort of Sunak government?

0:44.4

I think it's got no direction whatsoever. I mean it does suggest that to the extent that he's got a plan now, it is just to kind of revert back to the kind of factory reset of British politics

0:55.2

pre-2016 I thought Cameron coming back was not only very surreal but also very telling in the

1:01.0

sense that the Tory party is kind of very brief dalliance with populism or

1:05.7

we're just trying to do something a little bit different beyond a quite narrow kind of

1:08.2

new elite consensus is well and truly over and whilst I didn't really hold a can

1:12.0

particular candle for Sweller Braverman I'm sure we'll get into that sake and what that meant

1:16.0

I thought it was telling insofar as a visionless political class which is now thinking that they can just kind of ignore all of those kind of

1:25.0

of the past few years that they can ignore the issues that have long been ignored,

1:30.0

just pushed them to the side once again.

1:32.0

And I just wonder about that David Cameron point in particular,

1:35.0

like who is that supposed to please,

1:37.0

other than the handful of kind of liberal Tories in the comment area

1:40.0

and Michael Hesseltine and a few Tory grandees.

1:43.0

That's the only constituency this could possibly respond to this positively.

1:47.4

You know, even the kind of well-to-do home counties, Tories of old,

1:51.4

who loved him, the kind of younger generation who wanted this kind of

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