Hello and our guest is Father Hugh Barber, Norbertine Priest, former friar of St Michael's Abbey in Orange County, which is building a new church.

You should look it up online.

Hello, Father.

Hello, hello.

It's very nice to be speaking with you in June, a month of many good things, including the

Feast of the Sacred Heart.

Yes.

And so it's called, therefore, the month of the Sacred Heart. And the Sacred Heart has pride of place among the devotions of the church in many ways.

In many ways, yeah, in a certain sense.

Okay, so does it start with Margaret Mary, St Margaret Mary,

Alacoc?

Alacoc.

I never know how to say it.

The coke, yeah, that's a French name,

but if you look at it and say it phonetically it's alacook okay yeah

anacook actually the devotion has its origin in the Gospels, not explicitly, but in fact in John 19, one of the soldiers

pierces our lord's side with a lance and they're immediately flowed there from blood and water and

St. John says that the one who is testifying knows his witness is true because he saw it happen.

They regarded this as a miraculous event that blood and water would flow from a dead body.

Yes. As we know, blood doesn't flow from a dead body as though the body

were still pumping the blood. This is one of the beautiful elements say of the

art of Biao Angelico that you see that Christ crucified the blood is obviously pulsing

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