Welcome back to another episode of Trading Secrets.

Today we are joined by one of the most recognizable and respected journalists in America, Caitlin Collins.

Caitlin is the anchor of the source on CNN and CNN's chief White House correspondent, where she

brings clarity and accountability to the story shaping our world. As a chief White House correspondent,

she has covered both Trump and Biden and now Trump again,

and is making history is the youngest ever to hold that role at the network. She has reported

from the halls of the White House to international summits, pressing world leaders and presidents

alike with sharp, fearless questions. Caitlin's rise from local Alabama roots is a story of ambition,

resilience, and navigating the business of media at the highest level. Today, we will explore

the financial realities of journalism, the business of a major news network behind the scenes

of the biggest moments and how Caitlin has built a personal brand and one of the most competitive industries in the world. Caitlin, we've been trying for months to get you on training secrets. You are finally here. And it is so nice to meet you. It is great to be here. I'm a big viewer. I love the podcast. Love that. And yeah, I know. Our schedule is crazy, but it's nice to be here. So hopefully no major crises break out.

I mean, there's a million things for me to get into.

Now I'm going off the coffee. You got two phones there? What's the situation? How's that work? Yeah, I've had two phones for like 10 years now. So it's totally normal to me. Like, I just think everyone has two phones. So one's work, one's personal?

Technically, one is work and one is personal,

but they're so intermixed at this point

that it's like people will call me from either or they're like, it's actually really effective as a reporter to have two numbers. Okay. Because if someone thinks you're calling them on one number and they're dodging you, you can just call them on the other. And always from my Alabama number, they pick up like immediately. Yeah. Because they're like, who's calling me from Alabama? For sure. Surprise. It's me. Gotcha.

You're playing the game of cards. You got tea. You got coffee. Two phones. We're talking about it before this. I want to get into it now. What is like your day-to-day schedule look like? When does it start? When does it end? Where do you actually have a home? Do you have a home? You just live on a plane? What is the day to day? I live out of a suitcase basically. Honestly, every day depends on like the president. I don't really have a set schedule every single day. Like I'll cancel a million lunches or things. I'm like the worst friend to have because I'm always canceling, but always rescheduling. Every night, the White House schedule comes out like 10 p.m.

And that's usually what I'm getting off air from the show. So you'll kind of have an idea like, is he getting an intelligence briefing the next day? Is he meeting with a world leader? Is there a press briefing? And that really dictates my schedule mostly during the week. Because if he's doing stuff, you know, it's important. You've got to be up and be ready at the White House. And so, you know, it kind of just depends on really what he's doing.

Okay. I'm so interested in the White House logistics. We'll get into kind of the differences behind the scenes of what you can share regarding that. But just off the cuff, you said you get that briefing or schedule roughly around 10 p.m. How does that compare

into the schedule that you got during the Biden administration? Maybe they were a little earlier,

but pretty similar, especially in terms of, is there a press briefing tomorrow? Like, what's the

president doing? It's different because Trump is such an accessible president that like if he's just swearing in the ambassador to Greece, like typically that wouldn't be a newsworthy event if President Biden or any typical president was probably doing it.

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