We can actually become better, more integrated, kinder, more helpful, and happier people

after we have moved through the trauma that comes to us.

Hey, it's Marie Forleo and welcome to another episode of MarieTV and the Marie Forleo

podcast. You know, given how intense this past year has been for everyone, I am so excited about

my guest today because he is an expert who can help us all get on the path to hope and healing.

Dr. James Gordon is a Harvard-educated psychiatrist, former researcher at the National

Institute of Mental Health, and chair of the White House Commission on Complementary and

Alternative Medicine Policy. He spent the past five decades working to help us all learn how

to heal trauma. He's written for countless publications like The New York Times, The Washington

Post and the Atlantic, and you may have seen him on 60 Minutes, Nightline, and PR

or read any of his 10 books, including one of my personal favorites, Transforming Trauma.

Jim, thank you so much for taking the time to be with us today. I have to tell you,

I love your book. I recommended it to everyone on our team. I told them on our team call,

I was like, y'all, you have to get this book ASAP and not just get the book, but do the book

because it is so transformative. So thank you for your work. I want to start off with something

you wrote. You said that there are two dangerous myths about trauma. You said this right up front.

I'm wondering if you can tell us what those are. Just because some folks in the audience,

they might not even know if trauma has happened in their lives or may not anticipate it will happen.

Sure, the two myths, and they are very common, one is that trauma only happens to those

other people. Those people who live in war zones, those people in the most desperate poverty,

the ones with the grotesquely abusive homes, that it doesn't come to most of us and shouldn't

come to most of us. That's the first myth. The second is that if it does come, it's going to

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