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What Was That Like - True Stories. Real People.

256: Courtney was able to say goodbye

What Was That Like - True Stories. Real People.

Scott Johnson & Glassbox Media

True Crime, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.71.8K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2026

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Summary

Today’s episode deals with a controversial question: Should a person be legally allowed to get medical assistance to end their own life? And keep in mind, this usually pertains to someone who is terminally ill, and who is also mentally and emotionally stable enough to make that decision on their own. Here in the US, most states still do not allow it. But Medical Assistance in Dying is legal in all of Canada. That’s where Courtney lives. Courtney told this amazing story on the podcast about four years ago. It’s the story of her mother’s decision, and it’s both wonderful and heartbreaking. And stick around after, because I was able to record a chat with Courtney to get an update on what’s happened since we last spoke. If you’d like to contact Courtney: court.chalmers@gmail.com Full show notes and pictures for this episode are here: https://WhatWasThatLike.com/256 Graphics for this episode by Bob Bretz. Transcription was done by James Lai. Want to discuss this episode and other things with thousands of other WWTL listeners? Join our podcast Facebook group at WhatWasThatLike.com/facebook (many of the podcast guests are there as well) Get every episode ad-free, AND get all the Raw Audio exclusive episodes to binge, by joining the other listeners at What Was That Like PLUS. Try What Was That Like PLUS free: iPhone: at the top of the What Was That Like podcast feed, click on “Try free” Android: on your phone, go to WhatWasThatLike.com/PLUS and click to try it free on any app Sponsor deals: Visit www.functionhealth.com/WHATWAS or use gift code WHATWAS25 for a $25 credit toward your membership. Visit AuraFrames.com and use promo code WHATWAS at checkout to get $45 off. If you’re 21 or older, get 25% OFF your first order + free shipping @IndaCloud with code [WHATWAS] at https://inda.shop/[WHATWAS]! #indacloudpod Go to ThriveMarket.com/WHATWAS to get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift just for signing up. Go to Quince.com/whatwas for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns! Get 15% off OneSkin with the code [WHATWAS] at https://www.oneskin.co/ #oneskinpod Try Mint Mobile for 3 months, for just 15 bucks a month - MintMobile.com/WHAT Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Today's episode deals with a controversial question.

0:09.0

Should a person be legally allowed to get medical assistance to end their own life?

0:16.0

Keep in mind, this usually pertains to someone who's terminally ill and who's also mentally

0:26.6

and emotionally stable enough to make that decision on their own.

0:32.6

Here in the U.S., most states still do not allow it.

0:36.6

But medical assistance in dying is legal in all of Canada.

0:42.3

That's where Courtney lives.

0:47.3

Courtney told this amazing story on the podcast about four years ago.

0:52.3

It's the story of her mother's decision, and it's both wonderful and heartbreaking.

0:59.1

Probably want to have some tissues handy.

1:03.2

And stick around after, because I was able to record a chat with Courtney recently to get an update on what's happened since we last spoke.

1:16.3

Real people in unreal situations.

1:21.2

The eerie silence when I walked in and he's just staring at me.

1:26.6

I was like, hello, like, are you okay?

1:28.8

And then I had to tell him, it was me.

1:32.3

There was just blood everywhere.

1:35.3

They're shouting, they're screaming, they're being hit by bullets, they're hitting the ground.

1:39.3

And in that moment, I literally thought, this is how I die.

1:42.3

Everything changed then. And I just thought to myself,

1:47.3

this isn't happening. Every single story deserves to be heard. I'm Scott Johnson, and this is

1:56.2

what was that like?

2:06.2

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