Do not wait until you're directly impacted or someone you love is directly impacted before finding it worthwhile to take a firm sand in the truth both biblically and again objectively.

12-time all-American swimmer Riley Gaines speaking at the

2024 issues etc. making the case conference.

Which is exactly what I did. I'm ashamed to say it. That's exactly what I did. I'm ashamed to say it.

That's exactly what I did.

I waited until I was negatively and personally impacted before I deemed it a worthy cause.

I saw the harm, the severity, the trajectory of where we were going

if we didn't have people who take a stand. So don't do what I did. If we do it'll be far too late.

You can watch and listen to a recording of Riley Gaines presentation,

making the case against men competing in women's sports,

from this year's Making the Case Conference.

For a donation of $300 by October 1st will send you a link to video and audio recordings.

Learn more at issues ETC.org. That last night's presidential debate, quite a bit of time, considering the number of subjects that needed to be covered,

quite a bit of time was spent on the issue of abortion. Of course, that has to do with the fact that abortion is a politically

volatile subject right now probably more so than in the last 50 years so what

we said and how much of it was true. Welcome back to issues etc.

Joining us for a fact check of abortion remarks during the US presidential debate.

Carol Tobias, she's president of National Right to Life.

Carol, welcome.

Thank you.

It's great to be on.

Your general response to last night's debate.

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