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The Talk Show With John Gruber

255: ‘Zap the PRAM’ With Jason Snell

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2019

⏱️ 167 minutes

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Summary

Special guest Jason Snell returns to the show. Topics include everything announced at WWDC: SwiftUI, Catalyst, and all the new features in iOS, iPadOS, MacOS, WatchOS, and tvOS.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'll tell you what I don't understand how people who like let's just say like

0:04.6

Like a Stephen Colbert or a Jimmy Kimmel or who have you Ellen DeGeneres

0:10.1

How did how do they do a show every day because I do one show and it you know it in our world

0:16.8

It's kind of a big deal. It is a beautiful theater. It's 1100 people. I feel an immense amount of pressure

0:24.0

And then I do it and it goes off and then I feel like that's it for the month

0:30.1

Like yeah, I understand how these people come back and then they're like well tomorrow. I'll do the same thing

0:35.4

So one thing is they've got they've got a big staff and that the staff helps them prepare and do some of the the strain that maybe

0:42.2

That you and Amy have to do for this and I don't know just bosses do anything

0:46.1

But just sort of smile and then read the intro

0:48.4

You know, I mean like if there's anything that slips through Amy's fingers. He's there for right. He's there to catch it

0:53.5

So that's part of it. I think also and I remember listening to a letterman talk about this like it's like

0:58.8

It's like being a long distance runner. It's like being a runner

1:02.5

You build up some some strength

1:05.5

You know, but if you do it every day you get those muscles and you're like you're able to pace yourself

1:10.0

That said I also got the impression especially from letterman that after even you know doing four days five shows and four days

1:16.7

Because they would they were a quarter fifth show so we they only work four days that he was kind of destroyed for the weekend

1:22.6

That that was part of it was that

1:25.5

And yeah, and the other thing I think must be and think back to like

1:30.2

When you were doing your college newspaper like there is something you

1:35.7

No pressure John, but like if you say something

1:39.1

dumb and Phil Schiller says something and you walk off stage at the end of the talk show live and you're like

1:44.8

What did I do you got to live with it for a year and letterman or colbert or

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