255: The Russian Game of Thrones with John Sipher & Trygve Olson
The Lincoln Project
The Lincoln Project
4.6 • 9.1K Ratings
🗓️ 30 June 2023
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Summary
Host Reed Galen is joined by Trygve Olson (Lincoln Project Senior Advisor) and John Sipher, a foreign policy and intelligence expert who served 28 years in the Central Intelligence Agency’s National Clandestine Service. They give their analysis on last weekend’s Wagner Rebellion including what it means for Putin, how it will impact the Ukrainians, and the response of the United States and NATO as a whole. Plus, the Russian edition of “Game of Thrones”. If you’d like to ask a question or share a comment with The Lincoln Project, send an email to podcast@lincolnproject.us.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everyone, it's Reid. As you've probably heard, we're running ads on the Lincoln Project podcast. |
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| 0:15.9 | And now, on with the show. |
| 0:26.2 | Thank you. on with the show. Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. |
| 0:28.3 | I'm your host, Reid Galen. |
| 0:30.5 | Joining me today is John Sefer, |
| 0:32.3 | a foreign policy and intelligence expert |
| 0:34.2 | who served 28 years in the Central Intelligence Agency's |
| 0:37.2 | National Climestine Service, including a tour at CIA's Moscow. an intelligence expert who served 28 years in the Central Intelligence Agency's National |
| 0:37.9 | Climestine Service, including a tour at CIA's Moscow Station. John's articles have been published |
| 0:43.9 | in The New York Times, The Atlantic, The Washington Post, and many other outlets. He also regularly |
| 0:49.6 | appears on MSNBC, CNN, NPR, and the PBS News Hour. |
| 0:54.6 | He's currently the co-founder of SpyCraft Entertainment, a global production company run by former |
| 0:59.5 | senior intelligence officers and experienced Hollywood producers. |
| 1:02.9 | John, welcome back. |
| 1:04.8 | Nice to be here, thanks. |
| 1:06.6 | And before we get going, just everybody wants you to know, Lincoln Project Favorite Trigby |
| 1:10.0 | Olson will be joining us in a few minutes. |
| 1:11.9 | He's just running a few minutes behind, but don't want to take any more of John's time. |
| 1:15.1 | So, John, in Langley, Virginia, at the CIA headquarters, there is a wall. |
| 1:20.6 | And I believe it has 137 stars on it. |
| 1:24.0 | Good for you. |
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