255. Never A Marine: Krystal Tobias, Laura Hobbs & Amanda Snell
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🗓️ 10 April 2024
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
They drove by Prince William Forest and turned east onto Minnieville Road. The area is a sleepy suburb, with wide open roads interspersed with the occasional subdivision or neighborhood. However, large parts are still fields and woods, so the deer often play dodgeball in the traffic. So, Thomas drove more cautiously than usual. As their vehicle approached Alps Road, Thomas saw something move. He pulled over and got out of the car. When his wife realized what they were looking at, she, too, got out of the vehicle.
It was a woman, half-dressed, covered in slush and snow and blood, stumbling toward them. She was scraped from the knees down, her face pitted with tiny red dots, and the whites of her eyes were reddish-purple. Shivering, she said in a hoarse whisper, “I’ve been raped and beaten. Where’s Lisa? Is she alive?” Lynn wrapped the woman in a blanket, put her in the car, turned up the heat, and then called 911.
There was no way at that moment that the Loves could fully comprehend that they had just played a small part in catching a murderer, freeing a wrongfully imprisoned man from jail, and bringing closure to three families, all by saving the life of the half-frozen woman now seated in their backseat.
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Thank you to our team:
Written and researched by Lauretta Allen
Listener Discretion by Edward October from OctoberpodVHS
Executive Producer Nico Vitesse of The Inky Paw Print
Sources:
Complete list of sources on Our True Crime Podcast website
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, I'm Edward October. |
| 0:02.6 | Over the years I've narrated more ghost stories, horror shows, and creepy pastas than I can count. |
| 0:08.0 | And yet, the crimes discussed on our true crime podcast managed to scare the shit out of me. This program is not |
| 0:16.0 | suitable for children or the faint of heart. If you are such a person go ahead and |
| 0:20.1 | switch off this podcast. Listen to something else. |
| 0:24.0 | Are you still with us? |
| 0:26.0 | Well, we've warned you. So, Hi Jen! |
| 0:47.0 | Hey Kim, how you doing? |
| 0:50.0 | I am doing fan tabulous. |
| 0:52.0 | Yours- Well good, I'm doing great thanks yeah so after |
| 0:57.5 | Easter and Sunday's great yeah it's getting warmer. Everything's fantastic. And I do have a case for us to do. |
| 1:06.0 | Let's go. I'm ready. Should I put my seatbelt on? |
| 1:08.0 | Are you ready? Some of these names, if I mispronounce them, I'm sorry. I tried to look them up as best as I can I'll help you with that Jen you know I'm really good |
| 1:15.6 | sure you will sure you will I don't know I might not have problems but we'll see we'll see all |
| 1:20.8 | ready yeah I'm ready, let's go. |
| 1:23.0 | All right, it was a cold and snow-covered morning in February of 2010 when Thomas and Lynn Love decided |
| 1:36.1 | to take the scenic route to Woodbridge, which is a suburb of Alexandria, Virginia. |
| 1:41.8 | The area had recently been pummeled by snow, and not once, but three times that month, |
| 1:47.0 | leaving record-breaking accumulations across the Washington, D.C. area. |
| 1:51.0 | So the loves were happy just to get out and about and go do some shopping. |
| 1:55.9 | They drove by Prince William Forest and turned east onto Minneville Road. The area was a |
| 2:00.8 | sleepy suburb with wide open roads and dispersed with an occasional subdivision or neighborhood. |
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