What's up, everyone? This is Anthony Pompliano. Most of you know me as Pomp. You're listening

Off the Chain, simply the best podcasting crypto. Let's kick this thing off.

Matt Luongo is the CEO of Thesis, a cryptocurrency venture production studio that includes

Foldap, Keep, and TBTC. In this conversation, we discussed bringing the worlds of Bitcoin and Ethereum together,

how Matt is a monetary maximalist, what TBTC is and why it should be valuable to the Defi community,

and how crypto companies are prepared for working through the COVID-19 crisis.

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