There are at least two ways to see the Messiah's presence in the Old Testament that chief would be the Lord's messenger.

Dr. Reed Lessing, co-author of the Issues, et cetera, a book of the month for September,

the Messianic Message, Predictions, Patterns, and the Presence of Jesus in the Old Testament.

The second way we see the Presence of Jesus in the Old Testament would be through God's glory.

Learn more about the Messianic Message at issuesetc.org.

Learn to be shabby, my Lord, for praise shall be, and Lord, in this we come my will and glory.

Through the mess of God, we exchange the humble abode, and Lord is to show us how much we live with glory.

Stands of three of the hymn come down, O love divine, let holy charity, mine outward vesture be,

and lowliness become mine inner clothing, true lowliness of heart which takes the humbler part,

and or its own shortcomings weeps with loving.

That will be the hymn of the day for this coming Sunday, a Sunday that will feature the famous parable of the unforgiving servant,

and proper for that Sunday that focus on judgment and the forgiveness of sins.

Greetings and welcome to issuesetc.org on this Monday afternoon, September 11th.

I'm Todd Wilkin, thanks for tuning us in.

We'll be looking forward to Sunday morning according to the three-year electionary with Pastor Sean Denzer,

then Dr. Ken Sherb joins us for part two of our series on evangelism.

Pastor Sean Denzer is director of worship for the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod.

Sean, welcome back.

It's great to be here, Todd.

You say that this coming Sunday is all about judgment and forgiveness. What do you mean by that?

Well, we're coming off last week in Matthew 18, which you remember was about rescuing people from

destructive sin, the Lord's great concern for children, not his concern for how great people think

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