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This is Aiton Weinstein and I'm Naor Meninger, and you're listening to Two Nice Jewish Boys.

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For so many, the Arab-Israeli world is a mystery.

Even in Israel, where we live side by side with Arab Israelis, it's a foreign culture to us,

non-Ahrams. We read about it in the news, we see it depicted in the movies and on television, and we hear it talked about endlessly.

But we don't really know what it's like.

Probably the only part of their culture, some of us know fairly well, is Arab food.

Shawarma, Knafe, Masabaha, the list goes on and on and on, and it's a good list, too.

But other parts of Arab-Israeli culture are alien to us.

For example, what is it like to study in an Arab academic institution?

Well, our guest today might just have some insight.

Avi Shalev served in military intelligence and the civil administration in Judean Samaria and the Gaza Strip for 24 years. And then he had what some might call a crazy

idea. He wanted to obtain a teaching certificate in order to teach Arabic in schools, and he decided

to do it in Al-Kasemi College,

a Sufi Muslim academic institution in Baca al-Gharbia,

an Arab village along the border with the West Bank.

Avi wanted to cross the imaginary lines

that divide Jewish and Arab Israelis

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